In 2013, the couple bought a large, five-bedroom home in Frederick, Colorado prior to the birth of their first daughter, Bella. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. They are doing their best to survive the situation, she said. Why kill them? Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. After he strangled her Chris said. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. Choosing his clothes, his meals, his everything. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. All parents would want the best education for their children. Chris Watts is serving five life sentences plus 48 years in prison without the possibility of parole. What was their age difference if he met her while she was still in high school? All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. Her lifestyle was coming to a screeching halt. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. Shanann was absolutely obsessed with money and the finer things in life. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing about her picturesque family. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. He had policies on his kids and wife. Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. They added that they feared that the release of the film will only increase the harassment that they had already been receiving. Thats so sad. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. They were a family. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. A Timeline Of Chris And Shanann Watts' Marriage, Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing company. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. But the tense silence of pretending everything is fine is not healthy, or helpful. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. He wants to fade into the background. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. Family (1) Trivia (5) Older sister of Frankie Rzucek. You feel like youre expendable. Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. should communicate even if it is good or bad information. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. This is the full timeline of his murder case, complete with phone records, texts . Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. She was making it very difficult for him to go through with a divorce. LEONARD's current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. How did things change so quickly? Required fields are marked *. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. The following day, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI joined the investigation. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. Photo: Facebook, Netflix Regardless she didnt murder her children, the psychopath Chris Watts took their lives . But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. November 19 saw Chris getting five life sentences: three consecutive and two concurrent, without the possibility of parole; an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of his wifes pregnancy; 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body. Words have devastating consequences. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant with the couple's son when Chris strangled her to death in their bedroom. She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. Shanann was buried in a shallow grave, while Bella and Celeste were left submerged inside two oil tanks at the site. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. At the time of her death, she was fifteen weeks pregnant with a son who she had named Nico Lee Watts; her date of delivery was January 31, 2019. The two had a tumultuous relationship, and divorced in 2013. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. Yes, too little to late on her end. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. But one day she starts seeing subtle changes, then more physical changes, and a more assured and arrogant Chris started to emerge, she knew the marriage was definitely in trouble before she got pregnant. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. Well, she shouldnt have . When it comes to Familicide, it is really hard to pinpoint and say there were absolutely no outward signs I do think CW appeared to be very standoffish and distant in the last videos of them on the trip. I am also wondering if he had some sort of a recreational drug usethe Oxy being given to SW by CW for the abortion could have been something from his own use for fun with NK?! in the future. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. Shanann Watts was visiting her parents with her two daughters in the area for a summer vacation in the weeks leading up to her murder. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. But none of those descriptions really explain what led him to commit murder. Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. Three weeks before a friend reported Shanann missing on Aug. 13, leading to the discovery that her and the girls had been murdered, Shanann texted her husband on July 24, writing, "l realized. Interesting points made here. I think they were married 3-4 years. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. Over the summer of 2018, Chris Watts changed. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. It seemed like Shannon dictated everything with the kids and he just followed orders. The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. The pair began dating and married in 2012, with Shanann quickly settling into what seemed to be her dream roles of wife and mother. Youre right. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. More info here: https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/, Your email address will not be published. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. He also said so, and others said so too. Was it weakness on his part or hers? Its not a nice feeling. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. Then he met and married Shannan and did whatever she told him to do. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. It seemed choreographed. He was an average student, pretty smart. She did her schooling from Pinecrest High School in Southern Pines. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. She was desperate when she realized he was done. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. Chris was moved to an out-of-station location due to security concerns on December 3, 2018; he arrived at the maximum-security prison called Dodge Correctional Institution, Waupun, Wisconsin on December 5, 2018. Just Published! According to their bankruptcy documents, they made a combined $100,000 and had a mortgage payment of $3,000 per month on their $400,000 home. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. lts only one way emotions and feelings. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. The case became one of the most publicized murders in American history. Chris said when he met Nicole, he was not used to being treated with respect and having someone interested in what he thought. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger He was denied bail at his first court appearance. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. Hes wishy washy with both and leads them to believe one thing when he actually means another. No one just snaps, Glenn said. I personally would not have gone on that AZ trip knowing there is something wrong unless we had come to an impasse and had agreed to disagree or agreed to either separate or try and see how things go (which is what the speculation and her texts show). Days before Chris Watts murdered his wife, she sent chilling texts to a friend. I just thank God he took the right And once she was done she cut him out of her life. Watts told Ann Meadows, the realtor, on the morning the disappearance that him and Shanann hadnt gotten on for over a year. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. In July, Chris flew to North Carolina to meet up with his family. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. Later, Chris took Shananns body into the back of his work truck and also took his two daughters to the oil-storage site, where he first buried Shanann and then strangled both his daughters with a blanket and disposed of them in the oil tanks. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. He remarried and has kids. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. Parents dont like to get involved in their grown adult childrens relationships or marital problems, I understand this. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. You spoil us with love an attention! Or to think everything is good but to learn that it isnt. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. The murder of Shanann Watts and her children has reentered the public consciousness thanks to Netflix. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. Chris was arrested by Frederick Police on August 15, 2018, after he had failed a polygraph test, and subsequently, confessed to murdering his wife, Shanann. I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. He seems unable to make and follow through with what he leads both Shanann and Nicole K to believe. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said social media allows for individuals to project a moment in time, versus the realities of their lives. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Disturbing prison letters from Chris Watts to a crime author detailed Shannan Watts' horrific death Credit: Refer to Caption 15 Chris initially cooperated with police and. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. Before drilling further into this question, we need to be clear about the difference between divorce and separation. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. In an effort to avoid the death sentence, he had pled guilty on Nov. 6, 2018 to killing his pregnant 34-year-old wife Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, not quite three months earlier.And the five life sentences that would be handed down weeks laterplus additional time for the murder of his unborn son . The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? Nothing out of the box. Just Published! And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. He described how he did it. But this wasnt the trigger, it couldnt be, because Shanann already knew about the divorce, and had known for a long time. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. 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